Speaker 1: 0:14

welcome back to the super awesome mix podcast. I am matt sudholm, alongside my co-host and co-founder of super awesome mix, samer Abusalbi. Samer, I'm going to let you introduce our special guest today.

Speaker 2: 0:29

Awesome. It is my real honor, as always, to be here and to introduce Amy O'Dell, and I have like a really long list of accomplishments. You know that I could go through about her. She's a fashion journalist, she's author of the book Tales from the Back Row, editor, writer, insanely intelligent, but perhaps the most amazing thing I think that you've managed to accomplish. Amy is being my friend for nearly 20 years now.

Speaker 3: 0:52

That takes dedication.

Speaker 2: 0:56

Absolutely yes, thank you Welcome. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3: 1:01

Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 1:04

Amy, I read up on you before the show, and I was just talking about this before we started. My wife was so impressed with your resume that she kind of questioned how you're friends with Sammer.

Speaker 3: 1:17

Yeah, many people do obviously.

Speaker 1: 1:19

Did you guys go to high school together? Is that the story?

Speaker 3: 1:22

Yeah, so Sammer and I met in, I think, when we were freshmen. Is that right, sammer? Yes, in high school we went to westlake high school in austin, texas. Um, and I don't know, we somehow stayed very close friends, uh, all these 20 years, even though we didn't live in the same place right um, we probably had long periods where we didn't even really talk uh, which is not the case anymore, but we stayed friends. I think the first thing that we did together as as friends was we went bowling a classic texas pastime yeah.

Speaker 3: 2:01

Yes.

Speaker 2: 2:04

Yeah, oh man, good times. Yes, I think, the beginning of our like real friendship, because we knew each other in ninth grade but then we really became friends our senior year, because you came in late to physics class and you got seated at the table with all the other A last names, because he had us organized alphabetically.

Speaker 3: 2:22

Okay, to be fair, while I am often late although I've gotten better as I've gotten older I think I wasn't late. I was just my name was not on the class list, so yeah that I got that with all the A names but that was great fun. That was a horrible class. It was so hard, but it was. Yeah, it was like the hardest class ever, but yeah, it really was.

Speaker 2: 2:43

It was a lot of fun yeah. Yeah, awesome. Well, let's get into your mix. I am really excited for, I will say, at least half of these songs. Other ones I didn't so much listen to growing up, but that's okay. You know, music is. That's the fun of it all. Everyone has a different experience.

Speaker 3: 3:06

But can you tell us about the theme before we jump into the first song? Yeah, so I made this playlist, I don't know why. I guess I was just in the mood to do sort of throwback jams. So I would say this is kind of like a high school mix, or maybe it's because Sam or I strongly associate you with high school.

Speaker 2: 3:22

I never really left. To be honest, yeah, thinking deeply about our friendship.

Speaker 3: 3:25

As I put this song together yeah, I sort of themed it around high school, although I have one song which we'll talk about. That was not 90s but more like mid odds. Got it Cool, but it just felt appropriate, given the artist, but I know we'll get to that.

Speaker 2: 3:41

Wonderful All right.

Speaker 3: 3:41

Well, kicking us off real strong song, you've got Santoria by Sublime yeah, so Sublime is an artist that I strongly associate with, like a hot, a very hot car you know it's go on in Texas okay like in Texas, you know, in the summer, like year round, because it's so hot there.

Speaker 3: 4:06

So you get in your car and it's so hot right um, and obviously, when I was in high school I drove and then I went to college in new york city so I stopped driving. Um, but yeah, I just associate it with like getting in my car and like driving. I don't know why, but specifically I have an association with Lake Austin Boulevard. Um, just driving my like old white Toyota Camry uh, same where you had a cooler car than I did uh, on Lake Austin Boulevard, I'm like I don't know, going to Barton Springs Pool that's awesome.

Speaker 2: 4:42

So was it just I? It just, was it just like on, like always playing in your car, or it's just like your preferred song when you're there.

Speaker 3: 4:50

Well, I used to listen, as I'm sure you did too, to 101X.

Speaker 2: 4:53

Of course yes.

Speaker 3: 4:54

This was because, when we were in high school, we listened to the radio.

Speaker 2: 4:57

Right.

Speaker 3: 4:58

And I listened to 101X and I feel like they would. They must have played Sublime all the time all the time.

Speaker 2: 5:04

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3: 5:04

That was a great radio station yes, but then eventually, um, I mean, maybe they played it on like mix 94.7 and 96.7, um, like those were all the stations I listened to right maybe eventually they crossed over. I don't really remember. They crossed over to pop territory, but isn't santeria the song that, um, that lana del rey remixed, or was it another sublime song?

Speaker 1: 5:34

that's something I really should know, I should have prepared for that.

Speaker 3: 5:38

I usually look at let me, let me look this up.

Speaker 1: 5:40

Let me look this up okay, we're doing real-time research on this.

Speaker 3: 5:43

Yeah, my friends would be very disappointed in me, given that I usually have better pop culture knowledge than this right um, I was really upset actually that she covered this song. Oh no, she did due in time, which is also on my on my right, oh, that's later. Yeah, yeah, she covered due in time. I was really upset that she did that why? Because it's just like you didn't want someone to touch the song I think the song yeah, I think the song is great as it is right, I get, I'm like how is she gonna make it better?

Speaker 3: 6:14

and then I don't know to like fully, like make it a pop song right, yeah, I, I get that.

Speaker 1: 6:20

I understand the original is really good yeah, no, sometimes I don't understand the point of some remakes. You know, especially when it's a really I get it. If it's a really bad song and then you try to remake it into something that's like more tolerable. You know, like I don't like the song brown-eyed girl and I and I wish someone would remake it maybe make it more tolerable, but that is yet to happen why?

Speaker 3: 6:45

Because you have to hear it at like every wedding you go to.

Speaker 1: 6:48

Yes, right, it was just that I hear those first couple notes and I'm just like, oh, it's like a stomach punch yeah.

Speaker 3: 6:56

I don't want to continue yeah. Anyway, I just feel like Sublime does not need to be remixed.

Speaker 1: 7:01

No, I agree. I agree to be remixed. No, I agree I agree, uh.

Speaker 3: 7:07

So you start strong with sublime, and then I think you get stronger.

Speaker 1: 7:08

Okay, you go to lauren hill, all right, uh, and and this is off the you know her, her one big album and uh, that was kind of a hit after hit after hit album, but, um, you pick, doo-wop that thing, go ahead go ahead tell us why this was the selection here I just well.

Speaker 3: 7:26

I love this song, I love the way it sounds, as I do everything on the mix but. I also feel like this is kind of a feminist anthem that has held up and I just had a daughter and I want her to like listen to this song and like absorb the values of this song and that's in between, like baby shark and raffy right yeah, exactly, yeah, just to forewarn you, she's gonna prefer baby shark initially.

Speaker 1: 7:55

It's gonna take some time to get yeah my son, my son who was almost three.

Speaker 3: 8:01

He went through a phase when he was a baby and now he's a toddler. But he went through a phase when he was a baby where he really responded to no, no, no, by destiny's child. I think he was like learning to talk and know and entered his vocabulary that is an early word that we all learn yeah, yeah, he would really jam out, like when we would take long car rides um to no, no, no that's awesome.

Speaker 1: 8:25

That is all I mean. Great. I love that he loves that song, but that had to be tough as a parent because he was probably just saying no to everything, even more than most toddlers do at that point right it probably was, but, as as I'm learning, as toddlers get older, their opinions get stronger yes, and it it gets more difficult negotiating with them as time goes on.

Speaker 2: 8:47

Man, I don't think I've ever left being a toddler. Then I keep, I keep losing age as we talk through this podcast. I think the only difference is my vocabulary is expanded, but which is helpful.

Speaker 3: 9:05

Don't give yourself too much credit Samer Fair yes, fair point.

Speaker 2: 9:11

All right, speaking of you know people driving each other crazy, you've got Britney Spears parentheses. You drive me crazy as your third song. Yeah Well, okay, so the parentheses.

Speaker 3: 9:24

To be clear, those were not mine.

Speaker 2: 9:26

Right, no, I know they're part of the song.

Speaker 3: 9:29

Look, we have a slew of Britney Spears fans listening, so they don't need to be told that the parentheses are around you driving me Well you know, yeah, I didn't realize how many sort of superfluous parentheses there were in song titles until I actually made this playlist, because I was typing out each individual song, um, and as a writer, obviously parentheses and their necessity, or something I I do think deeply about, because I hate when I'm reading and I'm interrupted by a parentheses, like it doesn't need to be there anyway. Um, but Brittany, I think we're all thinking about Brittany, not only because we just all naturally do think about Brittany and have, for 20 years, steadily, but because of the documentary that just came out about her.

Speaker 2: 10:16

I haven't seen that yet.

Speaker 3: 10:18

Oh Sammer.

Speaker 1: 10:20

I haven't seen it either in Sammer's defense.

Speaker 3: 10:23

All right, so we've got homework. Okay, it's only an hour. So we've got homework. Okay, it's only an hour. You should both watch it. It was so fascinating and it was. It was really fascinating as a media criticism about the way she was covered in the media and how, how awful it was. And you know, I think America or the world had collectively forgotten about how prejudicially she was treated.

Speaker 2: 10:49

Right.

Speaker 3: 10:50

So it was very interesting. And, you know, now she's in a phase where she's kind of I don't know, she's got a whole slew of people in the Free Britney movement who are sort of trying to reclaim her independence and her prominence anyway. So maybe that's why I was thinking about her. But I also don't think that like you can really, um, make a high school like for people our age I'm 35 like you cannot make a playlist from high school without putting a britney song on it like she was just so.

Speaker 3: 11:21

So everything at the time. I don't know what the corollary would be today.

Speaker 1: 11:27

Like the Ariana.

Speaker 3: 11:28

Grande of our time, that's probably a pretty good parallel. Although I think Ariana.

Speaker 1: 11:36

Grande has a better voice.

Speaker 3: 11:40

Well, sure, yeah, absolutely. But I think Britney was such a compelling artist, arguably more compelling artist I don't know. Also, this song features a recurring cowbell which is just is that.

Speaker 2: 11:48

So it is. Yeah, that's my fun fact about this song.

Speaker 1: 11:49

I forgot well see, I thought I adequately prepared for this song by watching the movie drive me crazy with melissa joan hart and adrian grenier. I thought that's where you were going with this song. I was like, oh great, somebody's finally giving that movie. It's due.

Speaker 3: 12:05

I actually wasn't. I didn't realize Adrian Grenier was in that movie. Well, cause.

Speaker 1: 12:11

The star power was Melissa Joan Hart in 1999. Right, that was the lead, and then it's like we got this other guy and then, a couple of years later, the other guy you know entourage and off he went, Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3: 12:24

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 12:26

Okay, so there's Drive Me Crazy. We're going to move on Speaking of crazy and divas, Mariah Carey and Fantasy. So a lot of great Mariah Carey songs. Tell us why Fantasy makes it onto the list here.

Speaker 3: 12:41

Well, I mean, why wouldn't it be on the list? I think is the better question.

Speaker 1: 12:48

That's good.

Speaker 3: 12:50

Fantasy, and Mariah Carey I mean fantasy is. I think this is a big statement. I think it's her most important song, oh whoa, okay, okay, expand on that.

Speaker 3: 13:06

I'm not sure if you guys have a more important song in mind by Mariah Carey, but you know, like I kind of associate that song again with the radio and I remember was it on Sunday, I think on Sunday 96.7 in Austin, texas, would do like their countdown and I want to say, was it hosted by Ryan Seacrest at that time? Maybe it was anyway, but she fantasy was like the number one song and you would have to actually like put, turn on your radio and listen to these songs and there were commercials and everything. Mariah Carey had the number one spot for ever.

Speaker 2: 13:45

Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 3: 13:46

And that video was on MTV all the the time like I watched used to turn on the tv and watch mtv and trl right like how many times did we see mariah carey going down that roller coaster?

Speaker 1: 13:55

yeah, yeah, I remember that. I do remember. That was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this on the list was the video.

Speaker 2: 14:01

Yeah, yeah actually, yeah, I re-watched it prior to to us recording today and it's just like the most wonderful 1995 time capsule. Absolutely, it's so good.

Speaker 3: 14:12

Yeah, yeah and I don't know why. I mean, I've been working sam where, as you know, uh on a book for a long time, and when you're working on a book you can't really listen to music because you're either like interviewing somebody or transcribing a tape or writing, and I can't listen to music with words while I write but, if I ever find myself doing something where, like I can put on music for some reason, I just shuffle Mariah Carey nice, that's awesome, she's been with me.

Speaker 3: 14:40

She's been with me in recent years, in addition to the 1995 that's great.

Speaker 2: 14:46

Um, all right number five. Honestly, literally since you said this to me, I've listened to it like 150 times because it's just such an addicting song. So it's Madonna's Ray of Light, such a great track.

Speaker 3: 15:00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, madonna has so many important songs, but I think this period of Madonna, the ray of light period, was probably my favorite mm-hmm, what?

Speaker 2: 15:12

why is that?

Speaker 3: 15:14

well, it was very like dancey and um, she had a great concert dvd that I watched a lot in college, uh, where she was wearing like a white bodysuit and it was just like all kind of riffing on on on the whole dance disco theme. Right it was very comforting when I was in college.

Speaker 2: 15:34

Her, her vocals on top of like that EDM bass track is are just really really good Like every time the chorus hits, I just I can't help but sing along with her. The other thing the other thing that's great about Madonna is is it was also I keep referencing my parents like mixtape that was permanently in their car. Madonna also was all over it too, so I had a lot of strong associations listening to it.

Speaker 1: 15:55

In that regard, it's great right track I like how, through this podcast, we're going to slowly reconstruct that mixtape. So far we've got sticks on there whitney, houston and now.

Speaker 2: 16:06

Yes, exactly that's really my meta project here. It's just building that mixtape over the course of the entire.

Speaker 1: 16:13

No, don't tell me the whole mixtape. I want to just kind of reconstruct it and see if I can piece it together over time.

Speaker 2: 16:21

I will, yeah, I'll let that happen. It'll be the mystery that unfolds, very Serial-esque, you know know. Tune in next week, find out what other band yeah, it's on this, right that's right, that's our cliffhanger.

Speaker 1: 16:33

Um, okay, so moving on, we're gonna, we're gonna pair these up. So we got back to back destiny's child on this mix. Um, so you went with no, no, no, which we kind of talked about a little bit, and then you went with Say my Name. So talk about Destiny's Child. You got two other songs back to back on here, and and why? Why they had to be on this mix.

Speaker 3: 16:57

Destiny's Child was another artist that was just so important, I feel, when we were in high school, like in the late 90s. They were so important and I think everybody remembers that music video where they're just like, um, they're in different rooms that are different sort of jewel tone, colors and they're wearing outfits that match the rooms and then, instead of doing like a consistent dance, they just sort of hit poses on the on this certain beats. You guys don't remember this no, I don't at all. I don't remember the video I. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 17:29

I knew the songs. I thought I was like hey, look at me, I'm hip, I know the songs.

Speaker 3: 17:33

Okay, it's such an important video. Anyway, I think it's one of the songs that Beyonce continues to perform to this day, like as Beyonce and when she actually one of the. That uh, drives me crazy about her performances, even though they're brilliant and incredible and inspiring, is that she does these like medleys, like she just doesn't. She doesn't play many songs all the way through.

Speaker 3: 18:01

She'll do a snippet and then move on to the next one which, like you know, when you're Beyonce, you have such a vast canon of hits. I guess that's what you have to do to cover all the material that you want to hear. But this is one of the songs that she performs and like when she does her Destiny's Child section of her shows.

Speaker 2: 18:17

Yeah, it just has to be like so big. It's funny. Say my Name is a song that would make its way. So, as you two know but listeners probably don't know I was a spin instructor for many years and there would be remixes of Say my Name and it's like such a crowd pleaser. Like doesn't matter who is in the audience, Everyone like has a little bit more pep on the bikes whenever that comes on.

Speaker 3: 18:39

Still, a great song.

Speaker 2: 18:41

Today it holds up on its own 20 years later.

Speaker 3: 18:44

it's awesome. It holds up and people who have forgotten about it want to remember it years later.

Speaker 2: 18:49

It's awesome. It holds up and people who have forgotten about it want to remember it. Right, I agree, that's great, all right, we um. I'm also going to pair up these next two because in my mind they're they're like, they're very close to one another um, two of my favorite bands, one of which was also my desert island mix.

Speaker 3: 19:02

So you've got green day, the song holiday, and then blink 22 the song damn it yeah, so I think those songs are like 10 years apart. Uh, green day holiday came out, was it in like 04? I?

Speaker 2: 19:16

think so. Yeah, I think it was american idiot. Uh, was that album? Yeah right, which was their whole?

Speaker 3: 19:21

response to like bush right right um the war and everything. It was such such a horrible, horrible time. I don't know. I guess I picked this song. Green Day is another one of those artists that I associate with being hot in a car and listening to 101X, but I picked this song just because it's my favorite Green Day song.

Speaker 2: 19:45

Nice, it's a good one, it's really good.

Speaker 3: 19:48

But there were so many Green Day songs. I mean I really thought about which Green Day song nice, it's a good one, it's really good but there were so many Green Day songs. I mean I really thought about, like which Green Day song I was gonna pick for this discussion there are a lot of really good ones.

Speaker 2: 19:56

In fact, green Day, I think, was like my first introduction to kind of like pop, punk and punk in general yeah, exactly many people our age.

Speaker 3: 20:05

I think that's the case mm-hmm, they were great yeah and my husband. We have like very little in common. Actually, like our interests are not similar at all, but we both like. One of the few artists we can align on is Green Day that's great.

Speaker 2: 20:24

So tell, tell me about Blink-182 then.

Speaker 3: 20:28

Blink-182, probably my favorite artist growing up. I think they were my first concert. I went and I saw them. Samer, what was the concert venue in Austin that we all went to?

Speaker 2: 20:40

Stubbs. No, I did say Ludacris at Stubbs. Yeah, I went with you to that one.

Speaker 1: 20:48

That's a story for another day.

Speaker 2: 20:50

That was my first concert was the ludicrous concert at Stubbs Barbecue.

Speaker 3: 20:54

Was it really? Oh my gosh no, I had seen. I saw Blink-182, like it was the indoor venue.

Speaker 2: 21:00

Oh, like the Frank Irwin Center. Yes, at the Frank Irwin Center.

Speaker 3: 21:04

Yeah, I saw that and it like blew my mind to be at a concert. It was like the greatest thing ever, um. But yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2: 21:11

I bet they were. I've never gone to one of their concerts but I bet it's just got to be so much fun to be in that one in particular, like way back um 20 years, like when they were cool and not right old yeah, yeah, like you could still go.

Speaker 3: 21:25

I mean Green Day performs right like we could go to a Green Day concert, but I don't. I don't think I would get anything out of that.

Speaker 2: 21:31

I think it would just make me feel older, right oh my gosh, I I was having this conversation with someone recently um, I saw, like metallica like played um some online concert recently and I was like, oh my god, because in my mind I've just kind of frozen those bands in time. You know, you grew up listening to them and then you are, you like think of them as like, oh yeah, they're that's, you know, that's Metallica, that's how they look like. And then you see them. If you look at them again recently, you're like, oh my god, they're so old now it's.

Speaker 1: 22:01

It's pretty shocking yeah, metallica was huge when I was in high school, and I think I'm about 10 years older than you guys, so that's yeah, they're older for sure, yes, yeah, but I mean I guess they still rock, so that's great, they do they do, they still rock.

Speaker 2: 22:15

The songs hold up, I think.

Speaker 1: 22:18

But enough about Metallica. We're going to go over to track 10 and you come back to Sublime and I'll admit when I I didn't realize this was the title to the song. I always think of the song. I thought the title of the song was Summertime, because that's like the first words that he says, but it's due in time. So talk about why this is on here.

Speaker 3: 22:40

Yeah, that would be a logical mistake. I don't know, I just love the song. I love the song.

Speaker 2: 23:03

I love this song so Blind?

Speaker 3: 23:05

you know they didn't have. They didn't record that much Because they weren't around for that long. But this, I think this is about pop music with one of my closest friends every day and he was. He loves her cover, he thinks it's fantastic. He doesn't understand why I would side with Sublime, but I do, I do. I think the song should be listened to and enjoyed in its purest form. And now that it's spring in New york and samar and I I guess we're all in new york, right, um, you know, it just finally started getting nice out like now. Now is the time to get in your car and, like, listen to this song I agree, matt.

Speaker 2: 23:40

Matt's in dallas, though.

Speaker 3: 23:42

Um, oh, you're in dallas, okay, so it's always hot there right, it is all hot, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, um, this is actually a song I think could be a good candidate for like the.

Speaker 2: 23:53

The tone and the tempo doesn't match the lyrics, because this is actually just all about being cheated on by your girlfriend and feeling that you are like in a prison of her own making, basically, which is kind of rough. But then it's like set to this bossa nova song and it's so delightful and like such a great song to kind of just chill out to, but the lyrics are rather sad yeah, that's a much better description.

Speaker 3: 24:13

Yeah, the lyrics are actually. No, I listened to this yesterday on my jog and, uh, I didn't realize how disturbing some of the lyrics were until I really listened to it in like a more analytical way right right but I think this is a song that, like in no way in 2021 would survive.

Speaker 2: 24:29

Right.

Speaker 3: 24:31

The mob, you know.

Speaker 2: 24:33

Let's talk about a song that is still amazing Track 11. You've got Creep by TLC.

Speaker 3: 24:40

Yes, okay, so this is a little early, like for the period that I was trying to focus on. I think this came out in it in the early 90s, I think so. 92, 93, 94 was yeah, I think probably.

Speaker 3: 24:54

Yeah, early to mid 90s, that sounds right yeah, um off of the iconic album crazy, sexy, cool, um, but I just I think this is one of those songs that still like really holds up today and that I also just really strongly associate with that era when MTV was everything and they aired music videos. But actually I think the music video that I saw most by TLC on MTV was either Waterfalls or Digging on you.

Speaker 1: 25:28

It was Waterfalls had to be Waterfalls. Yeah, that was on all the time Would you remember the Digging on you music video.

Speaker 3: 25:34

I do Digging on you.

Speaker 1: 25:36

I think it's a great song, but nobody ever plays it, yeah. Which is a shame it is, which is really a shame, I agree.

Speaker 3: 25:45

But TLC. They're a very important artist. Their songs hold up today. I mean, perhaps they're more strongly associated these days with no Scrubs, I don't know. But I like Creep the best of all their songs. That's just my favorite, so that's why I picked that one.

Speaker 2: 26:01

That's a good one.

Speaker 3: 26:02

No.

Speaker 1: 26:02

Scrubs is my favorite. Can't argue with that. All right, we're going to finish it out with Jennifer Lopez. If you had my Love, Okay Now. Was it intentionally the last track or it just happened to be the last track?

Speaker 3: 26:17

No, I wouldn't say it was intentionally the last track. Jlo is somebody who I'm often thinking about, um you know the way, like my mind will just naturally drift to Britney Spears or Beyonce, like JLo, is somebody who I want to keep up with. Um, we wish her the best re her breakup with A-Rod right?

Speaker 1: 26:42

are they broken up or?

Speaker 3: 26:44

yes, they did conflicting reports you're very behind. They are broken up and they released a statement. They did release a statement confirming that they broke up. Yes, wow oh um, so you know, we wish her the best, we're thinking of her, but, uh, her, her, should we call it a pivot? Her pivot into pop music was so major in the late 90s. Um, you know, and I I find it remarkable, I guess, that she's still doing it right like she's now more of a.

Speaker 3: 27:22

she's a pop star really, more than an actress, right? I mean, she's just like a celebrity, like one of those rare global superstars who seems to have sort of like every industry in her thrall, like fashion loves her and music loves her and Hollywood. But yeah, I mean, I think this was the song that that made her what she is today. Right, I mean her Super Bowl, her Super Bowl halftime show. I thought was incredible yes really, really good. I don't know if you guys watched it, if you remember it.

Speaker 1: 27:56

I actually watched it with Shakira right yes, with Shakira, who was incredible.

Speaker 3: 28:01

I watched it with my son. Who was what? Was he one at the time? I guess he would have been a toddler yeah, like a new toddler and his mind was so blown I don't think he had ever seen TV before but, it was the only thing.

Speaker 3: 28:16

My husband had gone to watch the game elsewhere, because I don't care about football, I can't stand it, but I always watch the halftime show, so he had gone to watch it elsewhere. It was like me and my mom and my, my little boy and I sat him on the couch with me and we watched J-Lo and his mind was so blown.

Speaker 3: 28:34

He was talking about J-Lo, I think, for weeks that's awesome, yeah, yeah and now I'm sure he's forgotten it, but um, I'm going to get him back to that point. I should probably play him this playlist.

Speaker 2: 28:45

I was going to say, yeah, what's important? Yeah.

Speaker 3: 28:49

He's into Taylor Swift right now, so I'm happy about that. We're on the right track.

Speaker 1: 28:53

Yeah, that's great, that is good. Yeah, now, both my kids Taylor Swift, I mean, really speaks to the power of her music. Not to get off on a tangent here, but both of my kids early on really latched on to different Taylor Swift songs.

Speaker 3: 29:05

Yeah, yes, shake it off is definitely the favorite yes.

Speaker 2: 29:10

I still listen to the 1989 album. I just think it's like perfection start to finish. It's so good, great album.

Speaker 3: 29:16

I do think it's her finest work and Taylor is not really like my thing. I'm really more of a Beyonce JLo devotee, but I my thing I'm really more of a beyonce, jlo um devotee, but I do very much appreciate 1989.

Speaker 2: 29:30

Awesome, well, amy, great mix. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.

Speaker 3: 29:32

This is great thanks for having me. Yeah, and I I wanted to say also like I found it really fun to make a mix that I was going to share and talk about nice there you.

Speaker 2: 29:43

Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3: 29:52

It is and like because when we make playlists they're just for ourselves, right. So to make a list of music to share, it was really fun and really inspiring.

Speaker 2: 29:56

That's great. I'm so glad you had a great time. Where can our listeners find more of your work?

Speaker 3: 30:03

Oh my goodness. Well, you can buy my book Tales from the Back Row on Amazon or any of your other favorite bookstores. You can follow me on Instagram, where I share everything that I write. I'm a little bit on hiatus right now because I'm finishing a book, but I look forward to sharing details of that soon, but on Instagram I am instamyodell I-N-S-T-A-M-Y-O-D-E-L-L. You can follow me on Twitter, but I don't post there because I hate it. I'm at amyodell on Twitter and you can find me on Facebook. I have a page called Amy Odell Books, but I also don't love Facebook, so I'm not super active right there right now either.

Speaker 1: 30:48

So really just focus on Instagram.

Speaker 3: 30:49

That's really what you're doing, yeah, but I look forward to spamming everybody soon about my book, when I'm able to talk about it.

Speaker 1: 30:55

Yeah, I can't wait. Awesome, maybe we can have you back on with another mix when the book comes out.

Speaker 3: 31:01

Yeah, that would be great. I would love to do that.

Speaker 1: 31:03

Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us For the listeners out there. Tell a friend about the podcast. Subscribe to the podcast. Find us on social media at Super Awesome Mix. We are on Instagram, twitter, facebook with that handle. Download the app so you can listen to this mix, because we're going to post it in the show notes so everybody could listen to Amy's mix. And until next time with another great guest and another great mix. This is Matt for Sammer and we will see you next week.